Our current rules clearly state:
'Specific' Plays: No calling of specific Plays is allowed in profiles.
Idea: we allow this on 3rd downs only on offense, and 3rd downs only on defense. The reason is, this allows use to more effectively convert (and stop on defense) 3rd down conversions, by using plays designed as 3rd down plays. right now we can run about 80 percent PMR on 3rd and 10, which is what we want, but 20 percent of the time it calls plays NOT designed to gain 10 yards to pick up the first down. And on defense, the use of plays other than PM on 3rd and 6-10 leads to the offense getting easy conversions.
What do you all think?
Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
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Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
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Re: Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
I vote no to specific plays. It would be a big advantage for teams playing CPU teams. Plus, what happened to "no more rule changes"?
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Re: Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
I do not beleive specific plays should be alowed. It is the same argument as in the GL from my perspective.
I think things are fine on offense as is, but I do see the point of defense. We moved to requiring 3 play calls >5 minutes on defense and an argument can be had to allow the defense to go back to 2 on 6-10 and 10+. There are lots of play categories to use on 3rd 6-10 on offense, but the defense is limited. That being said, I think leaving it the same and not complicating the profile may be better. We've been wanting the offense to open a little and going to 3 categories does create a few issues on defense which meets that goal.
I think things are fine on offense as is, but I do see the point of defense. We moved to requiring 3 play calls >5 minutes on defense and an argument can be had to allow the defense to go back to 2 on 6-10 and 10+. There are lots of play categories to use on 3rd 6-10 on offense, but the defense is limited. That being said, I think leaving it the same and not complicating the profile may be better. We've been wanting the offense to open a little and going to 3 categories does create a few issues on defense which meets that goal.
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Re: Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
I suggested this for 3rd downs on both offense AND defense...
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Re: Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
Mitch-Raiders wrote:I vote no to specific plays. It would be a big advantage for teams playing CPU teams. Plus, what happened to "no more rule changes"?
If this was allowed CPU teams could use it also.
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Re: Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
Please stop trying to fix what isn't broken.
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Re: Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
Lions-James wrote:Please stop trying to fix what isn't broken.
The idea is a fix for something that is in fact broken. When you profile calls BB4X01T on 3rd and 10, a plays that averages 5-6 yards per completion and is designed for first down, you are facing 4th and 3-4 and punting. Allowing specific plays lets you choose 3 plays that have a chance of gaining 10 yards and picking up first down. Another fix would be allowing 100 percent PMR on 3rd and 6-10, 100 percent PSR on 3rd and 2-5, etc. Either idea FIXES and actual problem.
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Re: Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
When I had PML plays with higher completion % and lower avg yardage such as BB4X01T in my game plan, I did not use PML on 3rd 6-10. I have my game plan set based on my profile calls. They have to go together. I still rarely use PML on 3rd down for Washington. It is in the open team profiles some.
I also almost never use BB4X01T anymore. It really is just a PS play in execution. Once I went with less simming and more reviewing basic game planning, I noticed the most successful teams used lower completion % and higher avg yard plays more. There is more to winning than simple completion %. There is a balance where the completion % and avg yardage are optimal. I have not done the analysis to pinpoint it, but it is there. Not dissimilar to the 2 point and 3 point shots in basketball. Look at the Jets last season. Their receivers did catch a weird amount of contested balls, but clearly were willing to try tp string together longer completions and still have some 3 and outs. It is the final points on the scoreboard that matters the most.
I also almost never use BB4X01T anymore. It really is just a PS play in execution. Once I went with less simming and more reviewing basic game planning, I noticed the most successful teams used lower completion % and higher avg yard plays more. There is more to winning than simple completion %. There is a balance where the completion % and avg yardage are optimal. I have not done the analysis to pinpoint it, but it is there. Not dissimilar to the 2 point and 3 point shots in basketball. Look at the Jets last season. Their receivers did catch a weird amount of contested balls, but clearly were willing to try tp string together longer completions and still have some 3 and outs. It is the final points on the scoreboard that matters the most.
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Re: Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
When THREE categories are REQUIRED for 3rd and 6-10, what else do you use other than PMR?
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Re: Rule Change Idea: Specific plays
You can use:
PML
PMM
PMR
PLR
PRD
RR
Even PSR
The open teams are set to mostly PML,PMM, and PMR with RR and PSR mixed in. They do not have short avg yard PML's in the plans. I personally call PMM and PMR then mix in RR PSR and PML depending
PML
PMM
PMR
PLR
PRD
RR
Even PSR
The open teams are set to mostly PML,PMM, and PMR with RR and PSR mixed in. They do not have short avg yard PML's in the plans. I personally call PMM and PMR then mix in RR PSR and PML depending
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