Offensive GL Plays

[Rich-League Officer]

The rule is going to be 3 will be required for all goal line plays on offense and defense.
Yes it's crowded a bit but you don't have to use them.
You can skip run lefts to make more room.
You can skip razzle dazzle to make more room.

[James-Eagles]

I ask that this rule be reviewed at the end of the season. We have way too many rules going any that do nothing or little just because some person thinks they are are a good idea and we never review them. We just leave them in.

[Justin-Chicago]

So to clarify, we are increasing the requirement if used on GLP/GLR on offense from 2 to 3, and decreasing the requirement if used on GLP/GLR on defense from 4 to 3?

[Dean-Atlanta]

I agree with James, at some point we should have a REVIEW process and consider which rules might be a good idea to eliminate if they are not needed. Additionally, I think a rule should be put n place, that going forward rule changes are not adopted short of agreement by 2/3 or 12 of 18 teams. This is consistent with how rule changes re done in the NFL.

[James-Eagles]

I personally think people worry way too much on making needless rules. If you keep trying to fix things that aren't broke you are only going to break things.

2-DL not need and actually moves us farther from the NFL. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Single wing might be required next season.
There is no point to the GL rule either. Even if it is being called more unless it is game breaking who cares.

Good and great coaches figure out how to bet the new schemes through game planning. Average and bad coaches try to ban them. I say get good and stop changing rules.

[James-Eagles]

Personally I am indifferent on this rule. I just think unless it is completely clear it needs to be change then it shouldn't.

[Steve-LA Chargers]

I am totally against increasing the required number of GL plays on offense and reducing on defense. Totally unnecessary. Not sure how this went from controlling when they are used to messing up game plan counts. I'm going to make my life easier and stop using them entirely.

[Rich-League Officer]

I have to ask because this seems to be so sensitive....and I really could care less...but...
Why is everyone so angry about a lousy goal line play?
The way we have it was only needing 2 on offense and 4 on defense.
Where is the crime in making it 3 and 3?
Evening out the offense and defense does not seem to be that big a deal to me.

The premise was to not make it so easy to complete a goal line (pass) especially.
Yes there is data that they are competing very high. You get a 4th and 1 and its very likely to easily complete that pass because there a couple good ones out there. For example there is one GLP that went 23/30 76% for 14 TDs. You show me the NFL play that does that and I will show you 32 coaches going for 4th/1 every time all over the field. And if that is 1 of your 2 passes, all you need to do is find one more and it strikes me that this is not very NFL like at all. So all we were trying to do was make it a tiny bit harder for the offense and bump it to 3. And drop the defense to 3 to defend the 76% pass for a TD. Was this really a crime for this much hostility toward something so miniscule?

I believe James pointed out to me that defenses still have to call more plays than offense and he's right (6 to 5) but we have been doing that a long time and we do have a scoring problem. This was just to address a specific imbalance. It's hardly going to make a huge difference except maybe a few failed 4th downs which is a good thing. I think the anger over it seems a bit misplaced. But if every coach wants to keep 2 on offense and 4 on defense then lets hear from everyone. And when someone creates another great GL pass and both are completing at 80% and every team in the league is going on 4th and 1 all over the field, we'll live with that too. It feels like the anger toward the rule change is not the specific rule change but the fact that a rule is being changed at all.

I open the floor to a vote and brief reason why this was the most heinous rule change in history as long as part of your reason is not a past rule change or series of other rule changes. I want to hear only about GOAL LINE plays. Not complaints of 2-DL, salary cap, Charlie making a rule change from 24 seasons ago. Talk about 2-4 changing to 3-3 and why its evil. I am open to whatever coaches want but I want a coherent argument and not a past history of previous bad rule changes. One at a time please

[Justin-Chicago]

3 and 3 is fine, let’s move on.

[Mitch-Oilers]

Does the 50% timing pass rule still apply on GLPs now?