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25 Int

Postby James-Eagles » Mon May 04, 2020 7:02 pm

There was 25 INT this week. PNFL QB play in trouble?

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Re: 25 Int

Postby Charlie-49ers » Tue May 05, 2020 8:36 am

Yep. We need to delete some of the Defense dupes and give the QBs a chance, especially on the PLR and PRD plays. I am going to post some in a little while and would like some opinions. Usually we do not change things mid-season, but I think that we need a change ASAP.
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Re: 25 Int

Postby Matt-Jacksonville » Tue May 05, 2020 8:52 am

I completely disagree. Most games this last week had 1-2 ints per team which is fairly normal. Only two games saw something outside these averages. Also, we are on a pace to have FEWER INTs than last season. Last season we saw 243 total INTs, and this season we have about 92 through eight games. Teams will have a bad week occasionally, heck I had nine sacks last week against me, do I think we need to adjust the defenses to give the QBs time to throw? No, it was an off week for me and something that will be corrected. I don't see anything that would lead me to believe we need to make a mid-season change. At worst, I think we need to give it four more weeks and reevaluate. If we see significantly more INTs than say 138, I would be convinced that we may be headed toward a higher number of INTs than we had last year.

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Re: 25 Int

Postby Charlie-49ers » Tue May 05, 2020 10:07 am

Matt, I can easily wait until after the season to purge some of the Dupe defenses (in some categories up to five dupes). However, I would like to raise the requirement for Pass Razzle Dazzle from four to six, since there are three clones in that category! Would that be an acceptable compromise?
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Re: 25 Int

Postby Steve-LA Chargers » Tue May 05, 2020 12:18 pm

Maybe we avoid regulating it at all and rely on coaches to scout. If someone relies on the same PL & PRD defenses too much, anyone can exploit that for sure.

You have the flexibility to require more plays in the defensive plans only, so requiring 6 PRD is still an option. We can't change offensive plan requirements at all though because their current minimums collectively equal 60 plays. (18 run, 4 goal, 4 pl, 4 prd, 15 pm, 15 ps = 60)
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Re: 25 Int

Postby Matt-Jacksonville » Tue May 05, 2020 2:08 pm

If you want to increase the requirement of Pass Razzle Dazzle from four to six starting in week 10 that is fine with me. It might be a bit late to do it for week 9. Once the season is over and we have a full body of work to compare the numbers with, we can decide as a league on how to proceed. I just don't see the need to make changes mid-season. Over 2/3 of the league average throwing one int a week. Most NFL teams would love to have that few TOs a week.

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Re: 25 Int

Postby Rich-League Officer » Tue May 05, 2020 2:23 pm

*** I don't think we should do anything based on 8 weeks. We would need to see some data over several seasons to say we have a specific problem. Matt gave us some numbers (no idea how accurate) that would show it was just a rough week. What does it look like compared to the NFL?

*** On play dupes, if there are true dupes hidden in several catagories then after the season we need to delete them or better yet, force the coach to edit them. But if we delete, it must be done quickly! Not 4 days before week one which jacks up everyone's plans. If you are going to mess people up, at least give them 2 months to adjust.

One thing is pretty obvious to me without even getting deep into the numbers, the pass game is awful. It could be a lack of creativity in play creation, coaches not really coaching to find the best plays, defensive dupes of better plays. I am in a unique position to know what teams are coaching and which teams are mailing it in and you can see it too by close examination of the logs. But if teams are using the same plan each week, then it would help contribute to terrible numbers. Other good coaches will snuff it out. This holds true for 5 open teams who use pretty much the same plans each week. In rating alone they are 6-7-11-14-18th ranked so they fit well with the 13 live bodies.

But when you see only 4 teams over 60% completion, 0 teams over 100 rating, 16 of 18 teams on pace to throw less than 30 tds this season, overall scoring at historic lows in 39 seasons, we have something to discuss this offseason.
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Re: 25 Int

Postby Jerry-Redskins » Tue May 05, 2020 3:11 pm

While is is a small change in my opinion. We did go back to 2 D's per category this season. It was bound to have at least a little affect.
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Re: 25 Int

Postby Matt-Jacksonville » Tue May 05, 2020 8:50 pm

I just went into the game for this season's numbers and added them up. For last season's numbers, I took the log file Charlie sent out that had all the plays combined to simulate them being for one team and counted the INTs for each player listed. For the averages, it was simple math. Take the number of Ints for each team divided by number of game played.

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Re: 25 Int

Postby Rich-League Officer » Wed May 06, 2020 12:44 pm

Matt-Jacksonville wrote:I just went into the game for this season's numbers and added them up. For last season's numbers, I took the log file Charlie sent out that had all the plays combined to simulate them being for one team and counted the INTs for each player listed. For the averages, it was simple math. Take the number of Ints for each team divided by number of game played.


I believe you Matt, just did not examine any data myself :)
My feeling is consistent on all these discussions, we need to take a look at the bigger picture.
It's so easy to see a small sample and want to make changes.
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