PNFL Injury Idea

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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby Rich-League Officer » Tue Apr 28, 2026 1:29 pm

I don't think data is required to know the PNFL has incredibly low injuries and penalties compared to the NFL.
The question is, do the coaches have an appetite to change it.
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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby Matt-Jacksonville » Tue Apr 28, 2026 2:28 pm

That's not the data I was interested in gathering. I was interested in determining if we go with lower EN what is the breaking point for too low where we have guys with 40 SP running around during a game.

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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby Steve-Buffalo Bills » Tue Apr 28, 2026 3:53 pm

Matt-Jacksonville wrote:That's not the data I was interested in gathering. I was interested in determining if we go with lower EN what is the breaking point for too low where we have guys with 40 SP running around during a game.


@Dean - how were the injuries in the PCFL this season - the league has quite a few players below PNFL-level ENs on depth charts
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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby Brian-Broncos » Tue Apr 28, 2026 8:02 pm

Wouldn't it be easier just to require a different sub % than to change everyone's EN? Plus, starters would be left in the game longer and would be the ones more likely to be injured. By lowering everyone's EN, backups play just as much as starters so injuries would be far more spread out.
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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby Brian-Broncos » Tue Apr 28, 2026 8:06 pm

Mitch-Dolphins wrote:
Brian-Broncos wrote:This is completely bonkers to me. Not at all worth the work to manage and for very little difference, especially when all of our backups are so closely ranked to the starters.

Want more injuries? Just require larger spread of sub IN/OUT percentages. That should make stats more realistic too.

Want more penalties? Spread out DI, and it's possible sub % could have an effect as well.

Want more diversity? Increase the spread of player rankings. (Although I understand more now about why we don't, despite the frustration of it.) I wouldn't be surprised if that also increases injuries and/or penalties.


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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby James-Eagles » Wed Apr 29, 2026 6:54 pm

I have to say I have no desire to increase injuries. Yes, it is more realistic, but realism doesn't always equal more fun. On paper it looks like it is more fun, but a couple key injuries when you are having a good season will lead to just frustration. As a person that lives in Michigan. Injures most likely cost the Lions a great shot at a Super Bowl a few years ago. Charlie, I am sure, can attest to how frustrating injuries are as a Niners fan. There are already enough RNG feel-bad moments in the game not to add more. Let's focus on beating each other as coaches.

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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby Steve-Buffalo Bills » Thu Apr 30, 2026 11:15 am

Charlie is the champion for realism in the league. If he as commish feels we need more injuries, then he and Rich should come up with an easy, painless solution. Implement it in the offseason before free agency so we can adjust.
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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby James-Eagles » Thu Apr 30, 2026 6:58 pm

I think the gap is closing, but I think putting more demand on the GM aspect of the game plus adding more RNG will start to widen it again. The best GMs are the best coaches. One of the biggest arguments even made by Rich has been we don't want too wide of a gap in talent because it would create big blowouts. The better coaches can make up for injuries with better game planning. I don't think it is a bad idea; I just think the effect it would have is widening the gap again and creating more frustration. There already seems to be a high level of frustration with the RNG of PPP and the basic RNG of the game.

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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby Dean-Atlanta » Thu Apr 30, 2026 7:46 pm

Steve-Buffalo Bills wrote:
Matt-Jacksonville wrote:That's not the data I was interested in gathering. I was interested in determining if we go with lower EN what is the breaking point for too low where we have guys with 40 SP running around during a game.


@Dean - how were the injuries in the PCFL this season - the league has quite a few players below PNFL-level ENs on depth charts


I don't have data, but I think we have more injuries in the PCFL.
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Re: PNFL Injury Idea

Postby Dean-Atlanta » Thu Apr 30, 2026 7:51 pm

Steve-Buffalo Bills wrote:Charlie is the champion for realism in the league. If he as commish feels we need more injuries, then he and Rich should come up with an easy, painless solution. Implement it in the offseason before free agency so we can adjust.


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