Serious concern about the direction of the league

[Rich-League Officer]

Let's see, you have gone from name calling to threats.
Thanks for giving Mitch discord, as if you developed it yourself.
Pretty sure the rest of us knew about YouTube and Discord before you said something.

Oh and thank you for all these ideas, we were about to fold until your genius saved us once again.
I have no idea how we survived the 15 seasons without you.

Be careful about "breaking or abusing the rules" going forward.
It will not be tolerated. You'll be an ex-coach if that is your goal.

You are right about one thing, yes the league will fold one day but not because of retirement rules.
It's a miracle we are still here and each season is a gift.
But, if there are other coaches who are as hostile as you have become, I welcome their words.
I am at peace if it ended tonight.

[Rich-League Officer]

I like the transfers.
I do not remember who suggested it but it was a great idea and big success.
Take a poll and see who wants to get rid of them.
My bet is 15-3 to keep transfers.
And, the transfer also does exactly what you want to see more of.
It gives a coach the opportunity to keep preserving DE Myles Garrett or someone like him.
Mark could have added some vets to his roster before week one for just this purpose.
Smart GMs can plan ahead and target who they want to hopefully keep.


And, nobody can coach in this league and also do what I do behind the scenes.
If I did, I'd be a .500 coach
Dare I say Charlie would be a better coach if he did not spend hours on all the custom plays.

I think Justin or Barney recommended the roll transfers.

Justin and Barney are smart guys

[James-Eagles]

Let's see, you have gone from name calling to threats.
Thanks for giving Mitch discord, as if you developed it yourself.
Pretty sure the rest of us knew about YouTube and Discord before you said something.

Oh and thank you for all these ideas, we were about to fold until your genius saved us once again.
I have no idea how we survived the 15 seasons without you.

Be careful about "breaking or abusing the rules" going forward.
It will not be tolerated. You'll be an ex-coach if that is your goal.

You are right about one thing, yes the league will fold one day but not because of retirement rules.
It's a miracle we are still here and each season is a gift.
But, if there are other coaches who are as hostile as you have become, I welcome their words.
I am at peace if it ended tonight.

Such hostility. I did set up PNFL discord server and even set up everything to stream the games. That was 100% me. I boosted it so people had more sound effects. You seem to forget it 100% my idea to post the games on youtube and play them instead of sim them. I was the person who told you about OBS. I see what you really thought of me all this time. Just like you forgot we talked for quite a few hours working out a compromise on the retirement. It isn't the retirement thing that will bring down the league. It is treating the people that actually have ideas like shit when they point out flaws in what you are doing. I wasn't threatening anything; I have always stuck to the letter of the rules. Just like probably a quarter to half of the coaches in the league. I am just done helping with the rules of this league.

[James-Eagles]

I like the transfers.
I do not remember who suggested it but it was a great idea and big success.
Take a poll and see who wants to get rid of them.
My bet is 15-3 to keep transfers.
And, the transfer also does exactly what you want to see more of.
It gives a coach the opportunity to keep preserving DE Myles Garrett or someone like him.
Mark could have added some vets to his roster before week one for just this purpose.
Smart GMs can plan ahead and target who they want to hopefully keep.


And, nobody can coach in this league and also do what I do behind the scenes.
If I did, I'd be a .500 coach
Dare I say Charlie would be a better coach if he did not spend hours on all the custom plays.

I think Justin or Barney recommended the roll transfers.

I like how you complain about people being too old in the league but think the roll transfer is so great when it leads to players playing longer.

[Rich-League Officer]

James, I do remember one time a bunch of us talked till deep into the morning.
I am always happy to listen and negotiate.
Why is it that you do not comprehend that there are 17 other coaches who might think differently from you?
Charlie on the custom plays/draft and me on this other crap have to make everyone happy.
That requires compromise and it's not just a one on one with you.
Perhaps I said something that at the time I was okay with, but once 17 other coaches chimed in, it could not be sold.
Do you not see that part of whatever rule change takes place??

I like the transfer because while it keeps some players alive, coaches are willing to kill off more.
It's a numbers game for me. Teams this season killed off 49 players to save the ones they want to save.
That is 49 free retirements instead of coaches "rolling the dice" to save them.
The odds were 73% pass, maybe with only one roll it's a little less.
But even at 65% success, more players retired by having transfers, than not having them.
It makes no difference which players survive or not.

[Rich-League Officer]

I know I am going to regret this, but what is this 53-63 thing you keep mentioning.
Refresh my memory.

If it has to do with why we cut down to 53 as opposed to keeping 63, it's because that is what the NFL does or used to do.
Unless its changed, the PS dissolves and players become free agents. Then they sign them back to futures contracts and don't count against the cap.
But, those PS players are free agents and can sign those contracts with any team.
We essentially replicate this once we open free agency. Teams can go and re-sign their squad if they want.

If the NFL rules on this have changed, I am sure someone will highlight my ignorance.

[James-Eagles]

In the NFL PS players actually don't even have a contract; there is no cutting. They just aren't on the team. They are paid to practice with the team. So there is no cutting down; in fact, teams can go into the offseason with more than 53 players if someone is on IR. The NFL cutdown would be just the players becoming free agents at the start of the league year.

In the PNFL when we cut down to 53, we don't keep the best 53 players or cut all the PS players. We cut the players we most likely won't re-sign. This means there would be players in our cuts that would be normal NFL free agents. The point of the purge was to remove players who don't make the 63-man roster after their rookie contracts. These players would most likely retire from the NFL because they have sat out at least 1 full season. Players who were cut from the 53-man roster could be starters. One year a coach cut the 3 best LB in the league in hope of forcing his retirement because they didn't get the value they wanted in trade offers.

[James-Eagles]

It makes no difference which players survive or not.

I am really confused by this because everything you have done is to stop players from lasting as long; this sound contradictor to that.