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I think your sims further confirmed my point. QB does not matter - the supporting players and PPPs do.
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- Steve-LA Chargers
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What are the attempts and other teams stats in those games.
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@Steve - I already valued other positions higher than QB. However, like you said, this confirms my current thoughts.
Since its a holiday weekend, I might do some other experiments where I adjust the ratings of the surround cast with each of my 3 QBs.
12,000+ attempts
Since its a holiday weekend, I might do some other experiments where I adjust the ratings of the surround cast with each of my 3 QBs.
12,000+ attempts
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I would be curious to know the win-loss records of each
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I think Justin and I are thinking similar. 300 games is where plays start to level out for planning, but the stats would still be a little variable. That why the other things matter like Wins Loses, attempts, total O plays. Those things would put the numbers into more perspective
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Not sure about win%. If I can easily figure it out, I'll post it. I'll post some of the additional stats later today after some of my work calls are over
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;Here are additional stats as requested
Constants:
2042 KC and LA rosters
Games played in a dome
Denver CPU PPP used for both team
300 sims run for each block of games
Variable:
Block 1 - KC QB set to MAX in all ratings (SP 81 AC 81 AG 81 ST 96 HA 71 IN 92 DI 84)
Block 2 - KC QB set to 6 points below MAX (SP 75 AC 75 AG 75 ST 90 HA 65 IN 86 DI 78)
Block 3 - KC QB set to 10 points below MAX (SP 71 AC 71 AG 71 ST 86 HA 61 IN 82 DI 74)
Stats for KC QB:
Block 1 - 7,342 of 11,662 63.0% 82,101 yards 452 TD 193 INT 95 FMB
Block 2 - 7,747 of 12,205 63.5% 80,837 yards 411 TD 192 INT 55 FMB
Block 3 - 7,477 of 12,184 61.4% 80,225 yards 455 TD 147 INT 84 FMB
Stats for KC WRs:
Block 1 - WR1 2,441 REC 25,649 yards 10.5 AVG 119 TD, WR3 1,811 REC 19,412 yards 10.7 AVG 84 TD
Block 2 - WR1 2,664 REC 27,848 yards 10.5 AVG 155 TD, WR3 1,743 REC 17,588 yards 10.1 AVG 41 TD
Block 3 - WR1 2,544 REC 27,314 yards 10.9 AVG 175 TD, WR3 1,805 REC 18,212 yards 10.1 AVG 38 TD
LA stats for QB:
Block 1 - 7,574 for 12,161 62.3% 82,352 yards 433 TDs 217 INT 57 FMB
Block 2 - 7,310 for 12,158 60.1% 78,020 yards 343 TDs 222 INT 44 FMB
Block 3 - 7,840 for 12,479 62.8% 83,246 yards 358 TDs 191 INT 74 FMB
I'm not sure what to read into these numbers.
1) Even with a 10 point spread, a QB surrounded by superstars has no material difference in stats than a MAX QB?
2) Weaker rated QBs are less likely to throw INTs?
3) Since all of our QBs are within 5 points or less of MAX, it doesn't matter who plays QB?
4) QB doesn't matter as much as the other players on the team?
5) Is a spread of over 10 points is needed for material change in performance?
I don't know...
Constants:
2042 KC and LA rosters
Games played in a dome
Denver CPU PPP used for both team
300 sims run for each block of games
Variable:
Block 1 - KC QB set to MAX in all ratings (SP 81 AC 81 AG 81 ST 96 HA 71 IN 92 DI 84)
Block 2 - KC QB set to 6 points below MAX (SP 75 AC 75 AG 75 ST 90 HA 65 IN 86 DI 78)
Block 3 - KC QB set to 10 points below MAX (SP 71 AC 71 AG 71 ST 86 HA 61 IN 82 DI 74)
Stats for KC QB:
Block 1 - 7,342 of 11,662 63.0% 82,101 yards 452 TD 193 INT 95 FMB
Block 2 - 7,747 of 12,205 63.5% 80,837 yards 411 TD 192 INT 55 FMB
Block 3 - 7,477 of 12,184 61.4% 80,225 yards 455 TD 147 INT 84 FMB
Stats for KC WRs:
Block 1 - WR1 2,441 REC 25,649 yards 10.5 AVG 119 TD, WR3 1,811 REC 19,412 yards 10.7 AVG 84 TD
Block 2 - WR1 2,664 REC 27,848 yards 10.5 AVG 155 TD, WR3 1,743 REC 17,588 yards 10.1 AVG 41 TD
Block 3 - WR1 2,544 REC 27,314 yards 10.9 AVG 175 TD, WR3 1,805 REC 18,212 yards 10.1 AVG 38 TD
LA stats for QB:
Block 1 - 7,574 for 12,161 62.3% 82,352 yards 433 TDs 217 INT 57 FMB
Block 2 - 7,310 for 12,158 60.1% 78,020 yards 343 TDs 222 INT 44 FMB
Block 3 - 7,840 for 12,479 62.8% 83,246 yards 358 TDs 191 INT 74 FMB
I'm not sure what to read into these numbers.
1) Even with a 10 point spread, a QB surrounded by superstars has no material difference in stats than a MAX QB?
2) Weaker rated QBs are less likely to throw INTs?
3) Since all of our QBs are within 5 points or less of MAX, it doesn't matter who plays QB?
4) QB doesn't matter as much as the other players on the team?
5) Is a spread of over 10 points is needed for material change in performance?
I don't know...
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Still wondering about the other stats. The point spread's in games matters for the play calling as an example. Same for number of plays with EN and things. Lots of other variables at play. What are the team stats?
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I put the LA QB stats in the post. I don't know of an easy way to find W/L and point spreads. I'm definitely not scrolling through 900 sims and counting by hand.
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Mitch –
What did you have the EN set at, you don’t list it? I think I agree with Steve that play design, and the other offensive players are more important than the quarterback.
What did you have the EN set at, you don’t list it? I think I agree with Steve that play design, and the other offensive players are more important than the quarterback.
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