Quarterbacks

User avatar
Steve-LA Chargers
Posts: 1185
Joined: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:43 pm

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Steve-LA Chargers » Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:20 pm

Welcome to the dark side of the world of misfit QBs.

I think your sims further confirmed my point. QB does not matter - the supporting players and PPPs do.
Los Angeles Chargers
2041 Super Bowl XLIV Champions
Former commish of the XFBS, XFL, and CCFL

User avatar
Jerry-Redskins
Posts: 1358
Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:02 pm
Location: Sumter SC

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Jerry-Redskins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:43 am

What are the attempts and other teams stats in those games.
2013, 2036 PNFL Champion

Image

User avatar
Mitch-Oilers
Posts: 1232
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:11 am

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Mitch-Oilers » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:47 am

@Steve - I already valued other positions higher than QB. However, like you said, this confirms my current thoughts.

Since its a holiday weekend, I might do some other experiments where I adjust the ratings of the surround cast with each of my 3 QBs.

12,000+ attempts
AFC West Champion 2038, 2039, 2041, 2043, 2044
AFC Champion 2043

User avatar
Justin-Chicago
Posts: 906
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:15 am
Location: Indianapolis, IN

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Justin-Chicago » Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:52 am

I would be curious to know the win-loss records of each
Image

User avatar
Jerry-Redskins
Posts: 1358
Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:02 pm
Location: Sumter SC

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Jerry-Redskins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:24 am

I think Justin and I are thinking similar. 300 games is where plays start to level out for planning, but the stats would still be a little variable. That why the other things matter like Wins Loses, attempts, total O plays. Those things would put the numbers into more perspective
2013, 2036 PNFL Champion

Image

User avatar
Mitch-Oilers
Posts: 1232
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:11 am

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Mitch-Oilers » Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:56 am

Not sure about win%. If I can easily figure it out, I'll post it. I'll post some of the additional stats later today after some of my work calls are over
AFC West Champion 2038, 2039, 2041, 2043, 2044
AFC Champion 2043

User avatar
Mitch-Oilers
Posts: 1232
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:11 am

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Mitch-Oilers » Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:42 pm

;Here are additional stats as requested

Constants:
2042 KC and LA rosters
Games played in a dome
Denver CPU PPP used for both team
300 sims run for each block of games

Variable:
Block 1 - KC QB set to MAX in all ratings (SP 81 AC 81 AG 81 ST 96 HA 71 IN 92 DI 84)
Block 2 - KC QB set to 6 points below MAX (SP 75 AC 75 AG 75 ST 90 HA 65 IN 86 DI 78)
Block 3 - KC QB set to 10 points below MAX (SP 71 AC 71 AG 71 ST 86 HA 61 IN 82 DI 74)

Stats for KC QB:
Block 1 - 7,342 of 11,662 63.0% 82,101 yards 452 TD 193 INT 95 FMB
Block 2 - 7,747 of 12,205 63.5% 80,837 yards 411 TD 192 INT 55 FMB
Block 3 - 7,477 of 12,184 61.4% 80,225 yards 455 TD 147 INT 84 FMB

Stats for KC WRs:
Block 1 - WR1 2,441 REC 25,649 yards 10.5 AVG 119 TD, WR3 1,811 REC 19,412 yards 10.7 AVG 84 TD
Block 2 - WR1 2,664 REC 27,848 yards 10.5 AVG 155 TD, WR3 1,743 REC 17,588 yards 10.1 AVG 41 TD
Block 3 - WR1 2,544 REC 27,314 yards 10.9 AVG 175 TD, WR3 1,805 REC 18,212 yards 10.1 AVG 38 TD

LA stats for QB:
Block 1 - 7,574 for 12,161 62.3% 82,352 yards 433 TDs 217 INT 57 FMB
Block 2 - 7,310 for 12,158 60.1% 78,020 yards 343 TDs 222 INT 44 FMB
Block 3 - 7,840 for 12,479 62.8% 83,246 yards 358 TDs 191 INT 74 FMB

I'm not sure what to read into these numbers.

1) Even with a 10 point spread, a QB surrounded by superstars has no material difference in stats than a MAX QB?
2) Weaker rated QBs are less likely to throw INTs?
3) Since all of our QBs are within 5 points or less of MAX, it doesn't matter who plays QB?
4) QB doesn't matter as much as the other players on the team?
5) Is a spread of over 10 points is needed for material change in performance?

I don't know...
AFC West Champion 2038, 2039, 2041, 2043, 2044
AFC Champion 2043

User avatar
Jerry-Redskins
Posts: 1358
Joined: Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:02 pm
Location: Sumter SC

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Jerry-Redskins » Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:15 pm

Still wondering about the other stats. The point spread's in games matters for the play calling as an example. Same for number of plays with EN and things. Lots of other variables at play. What are the team stats?
2013, 2036 PNFL Champion

Image

User avatar
Mitch-Oilers
Posts: 1232
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:11 am

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Mitch-Oilers » Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:33 pm

I put the LA QB stats in the post. I don't know of an easy way to find W/L and point spreads. I'm definitely not scrolling through 900 sims and counting by hand.
AFC West Champion 2038, 2039, 2041, 2043, 2044
AFC Champion 2043

Barney - Vikings
Posts: 330
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:46 am

Re: Quarterbacks

Postby Barney - Vikings » Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:01 pm

Mitch –
What did you have the EN set at, you don’t list it? I think I agree with Steve that play design, and the other offensive players are more important than the quarterback.


Return to “Trash Talk”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 60 guests