Drafting QBs early

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Drafting QBs early

Postby James-Eagles » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:56 am

I have to completely disagree with Mitch on this one. I have a couple of points.

1. The number of potential starters matters.

Dean is right the drop-off to the next player matters. The last draft I started in round 2 since the best QB was off the board I only had an interest in QB 2 and 3. With every draft list, I sent in if QB 2 or 3 was taken it said to ignore my list and take the other QB. It was also why I waited to take the first one until I had back-to-back picks to grab both.

2. Just picking up a Free Agent QB.

Mitch is right short term but will mess you up long term. This strategy worked very well when our league is talent rich. I road Hurts to an NFC East Championship and my first playoff win. The problem is we used to have 6-7 QBs that were potential Starters every year now we have 1-2 and a great draft 3rd is a fringe starter. The disparity between players on a roster and free agents will continue to grow. This holds for all positions. I like to point out that the top 18 QB stat is misleading because how many of those QBs can be picked up in Free Agency, Age, and how many teams are starting a below-18 QB? Practice Squad and inactive should be used to develop depth, especially with the new draft classes. Remember free agents age normally in the game.

3. Old player evaluations measured will need to be tweaked.

We are in a new draft era, so how you evaluate talent needs to change. It used to be this player will play in my rotation in a year or two. Now players need to be evaluated like Mitch said based on the last couple of drafts. I would say start with last year's draft because that is where Charlie started with the new idea. If you don't in a few seasons all your talent will be retiring, and you won't have anybody to replace it.

4. Good chance they won't make it to the next round.

When you are on the fence if a player is good enough to take with your pick in this round remember if he is good, he most likely won't be there the next round. The bottom half of the draft is filled it great GMs. I can say, Thomas, Justin, and Jerry have more times than I care to count taken the player I was targeting with my next pick a few picks before me.

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Re: Drafting QBs early

Postby Mitch-Oilers » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:02 pm

I still say reaching for a QB right now in the draft isn't necessary. The key is right now. In another couple of seasons, players considered a reach today might be a top 10 QB based on POTs.
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Re: Drafting QBs early

Postby Dean-Atlanta » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:14 pm

I think it is often true, we will assess whether a player drafted early should have been based on that player's performance. A QB drafted in a the first round who ends up in the FA pool three seasons later is a bust, but even then if another team signs him and hse becomes a solid starter, maybe he's noit a bust but the team that drafted him didn't succeed with him. But if you draft a QB with the third pick overall and he's a solid top five in the league starter for 15 seasons, the pick was very well used for that QB.
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Re: Drafting QBs early

Postby James-Eagles » Sat Dec 31, 2022 2:11 am

Mitch-Raiders wrote:I still say reaching for a QB right now in the draft isn't necessary. The key is right now. In another couple of seasons, players considered a reach today might be a top 10 QB based on POTs.


If you wait until it is necessary you are already behind. To me, this comes off season to season thinking and that is fine if you want to be the 2000-present Cowboys. I ask what is the true goal of every team in the league. It is to win the Big Game(Hopefully NFL hasn't trademarked that). Then your mindset should always be focused on what it takes to win it all. In the PNFL that means having enough talent and coaching ability to be able to beat Thomas and Justin in back-to-back games.

For example this season, I could easily have signed a bunch of Free Agents and upgraded talent at every position and won a few more games. They don't help me get close to winning it all though. In fact, they would have cost me points that I could use to resign players when my team is built. That is why when I look at trades, signings, etc. I ask myself does this get me closer to winning it all? If the answer is no even if it improves my team the answer then is still no.


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Re: Drafting QBs early

Postby Jerry-Redskins » Sun Jan 01, 2023 3:27 pm

James is right. It is only about making your team better. There are two things in the draft. Your team and the other 17. You have to weight your needs against the draftees and what the other teams will do. It is a pick-by-pick value analysis. Early or late pick plans can change with one pick or trade.

I'm a lone wolf on the small attribute differences have impacts, but there are players that are studs by everyone's standards. After those few, we all see players differently. The QB position has multiple player types. I do not believe you need a fast QB. Just means doing less roll outs and such. So a player lower in our personal ratings systems can be a very good player if used correctly. You can likely let such a player wait until later, but if you are clearly lacking and a couple other teams need a QB, then don't fear going early for a player others hate. It's all about making your team better and the value to your roster. The skill in the draft is when to pick a player to maximize your draft results for your team.
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