Recent insane obsession with 92IN 84DI QBs
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Re: Recent insane obsession with 92IN 84DI QBs
The same insanity coaches have with 92-84 QB is the same other coaches have with WR with 96 hands. If having high hands was so important to catch then RB's would have hands of stone and not catch anything.
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Re: Recent insane obsession with 92IN 84DI QBs
Kizer is one point if IN short of matching most of the ratings of San Darnold, so he should be better than his past performance, right? I guess we will see.
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Re: Recent insane obsession with 92IN 84DI QBs
We had just ONE 1000 yard WR last season, from Oakland:
A WR1 80 Emanuel Hall OK 5 0-0 0 83 85 91 64 96 90 93 94
83 85 91 64 96 90 95 96
Note that he has pretty good SP-AC and maxx AG. He's not a slow guy woith 96 HA. and 90 EN.
A WR1 80 Emanuel Hall OK 5 0-0 0 83 85 91 64 96 90 93 94
83 85 91 64 96 90 95 96
Note that he has pretty good SP-AC and maxx AG. He's not a slow guy woith 96 HA. and 90 EN.
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Re: Recent insane obsession with 92IN 84DI QBs
The WR that caught the most passes last season is an FA:
1 Campbell, Parris SEA 3 WR 80 853 10.7 39 0
WR Parris Campbell OK 4 0-0 0 82 84 86 64 95 90 94 94
83 85 87 66 96 91 95 96
1 Campbell, Parris SEA 3 WR 80 853 10.7 39 0
WR Parris Campbell OK 4 0-0 0 82 84 86 64 95 90 94 94
83 85 87 66 96 91 95 96
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Re: Recent insane obsession with 92IN 84DI QBs
Ratings alone don't mean much. Ratings plus play combinations = stats
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Re: Recent insane obsession with 92IN 84DI QBs
Let's talk about it more. What do you think these ratings really do for a QB? I'll throw out what I think along with what the game book says. I'm adding HA too only because the game book actually mentioned it.
GAME SAYS: ST & IN matter most for QBs but doesn't specifically say what IN influences
ST = Determines how far he can throw the ball.
IN = How well the player interprets events and uses that information. (General description for all players)
DI = Affects completion percentage and interception rate.
HA = Used when checking for a fumble on the snap from the Center. (Game actually mentions HA for QBs)
MY THOUGHTS:
ST =
Big Arm QB (ST = 96/95 - can throw deep)
No Arm QB (ST <= 94 - may underthrow deep passes)
IN =
Smart QB (IN = 92/91 - strong pocket presence and ability to find open receivers)
Dumb QB (IN <= 90 - mostly throws to primary and secondary receivers even if covered well so could get more INTs - poor pocket presence means he better have good agility because he's gonna need to scramble a lot to avoid sacks)
DI =
Pinpoint Accurate QB (DI = 84/83 - will throw it where the receiver is more likely to catch the ball - can nail receivers in tight coverage)
Wild Thing QB (DI <= 82 - basically throws in the direction of the target on any pass [even timed passes] and hopes for the best)
HA =
Big Hand QB (HA = 71/70 - places ball well on FG tries, protects the ball when pressured or on keepers)
Small Hand QB (HA <=69 - fumbler; your kicker hates him)
GAME SAYS: ST & IN matter most for QBs but doesn't specifically say what IN influences
ST = Determines how far he can throw the ball.
IN = How well the player interprets events and uses that information. (General description for all players)
DI = Affects completion percentage and interception rate.
HA = Used when checking for a fumble on the snap from the Center. (Game actually mentions HA for QBs)
MY THOUGHTS:
ST =
Big Arm QB (ST = 96/95 - can throw deep)
No Arm QB (ST <= 94 - may underthrow deep passes)
IN =
Smart QB (IN = 92/91 - strong pocket presence and ability to find open receivers)
Dumb QB (IN <= 90 - mostly throws to primary and secondary receivers even if covered well so could get more INTs - poor pocket presence means he better have good agility because he's gonna need to scramble a lot to avoid sacks)
DI =
Pinpoint Accurate QB (DI = 84/83 - will throw it where the receiver is more likely to catch the ball - can nail receivers in tight coverage)
Wild Thing QB (DI <= 82 - basically throws in the direction of the target on any pass [even timed passes] and hopes for the best)
HA =
Big Hand QB (HA = 71/70 - places ball well on FG tries, protects the ball when pressured or on keepers)
Small Hand QB (HA <=69 - fumbler; your kicker hates him)
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Re: Recent insane obsession with 92IN 84DI QBs
@Steve
Here's how I assess the ratings for QB:
ST - 96 max, 70 min
96 - 92 = strong arm
91 - 86= good arm
85 -80 = avg arm
79 - 75 = bad arm
74 - 70 = poor arm
IN - 92 max, 69 min
92 - 89 = extremely intelligent
88 - 84 = highly intelligent
83 - 78 = avg intelligence
77 - 73 = bad intelligence
72 - 69 = poor intelligence
DI - 84 max, 65 min
84 - 81 = extremely disciplined
80 - 77 = highly disciplined
76 - 72 = avg discipline
71 - 68 = bad discipline
67 - 65 = poor discipline
HA - 71 max, 40 min
71 - 68 = great hands
67 - 64 = good hands
63 - 60 = avg hands
59 - 50 = bad hands
49 - 40 = poor hands
Here's how I assess the ratings for QB:
ST - 96 max, 70 min
96 - 92 = strong arm
91 - 86= good arm
85 -80 = avg arm
79 - 75 = bad arm
74 - 70 = poor arm
IN - 92 max, 69 min
92 - 89 = extremely intelligent
88 - 84 = highly intelligent
83 - 78 = avg intelligence
77 - 73 = bad intelligence
72 - 69 = poor intelligence
DI - 84 max, 65 min
84 - 81 = extremely disciplined
80 - 77 = highly disciplined
76 - 72 = avg discipline
71 - 68 = bad discipline
67 - 65 = poor discipline
HA - 71 max, 40 min
71 - 68 = great hands
67 - 64 = good hands
63 - 60 = avg hands
59 - 50 = bad hands
49 - 40 = poor hands
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Re: Recent insane obsession with 92IN 84DI QBs
Interesting points. The avg. and Good ranges, once factored in elements which could reduce the efficiency even further (low hand QB in the rain fumbling more) or even winded players who's EN reduces throughout the game, those avg. And good ratings become lower and could lead to erratic or unfavorable outcomes faster than what a consensus attributed player would.
Will be interesting to see once another full season is completed what the stats reflect.
Will be interesting to see once another full season is completed what the stats reflect.
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