Gameplan Strategy proposal

James-Eagles
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Re: Gameplan Strategy proposal

Postby James-Eagles » Sun Sep 07, 2025 2:23 pm

Dean-Atlanta wrote:I think what Shawn is proposing would be a net positive for the league, it should be adopted for next season.

How? Just saying it doesn't make it so and doesn't help the discussion. Give reason and why you think that.


It will make Game Planning harder so increase the time and skill level to be in a league that isn't full. As you have noticed with the college league people only have so much time. If you increase the time needed for the PNFL the more likely each season another coach leaves or checks out. Neither are good for the league

You have said over and over that new plays aren't able to compete with current plays. So even your own words encouraging play creation is net neutral. It also isn't an accident that teams that spend the most time in the play editor tend to finish in the bottom of the league.

I see tons of downsides and nothing good coming from it. Also it isn't NFL realistic. Every NFL teams has all new stuff done on Sunday Broke down that week. NFL teams have installed things in one week so there is no realistic reason to put this in.

Finally I appreciate play creators but this isn't a play creation league. In fact the reason play creation works so well back in the day is that leagues allowed AI busters and the pool weren't as refined as PNFL's so things to exploit. The thing is PNFL play pool is refined so play creations doesn't move the needle and rules changes aren't going to change that.

TLDR: This won't help play creators win and might lead non-play creators to lose interest.

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Re: Gameplan Strategy proposal

Postby Donovon-Steelers » Sun Sep 07, 2025 9:22 pm

In no way do I want to increase PPP/scouting time required - in fact, I'm doing *none* this year & pre-submitting PPPs because I'm too burnt out from last year. However...

If we limit this proposal to X number of plays per week (lets say 1 O and 1 D) and let's say 5 of each per season, as well as the limiting the team-exclusivity (to like 3 weeks or something), then this wouldn't really negatively impact any opponent's scouting time. If Barney comes up with a new pass and I see it worked well last week, I might watch a few plays of it and decide on a defense that might stop it. That's it. Or maybe I won't at all... Why? Because...

... most teams have an O game plan with 58-64 plays in it - which is also the ballpark of how many total O plays a team might run per game. That averages to about 1 call per week for each Offensive play (range of 0-4x per game) so by limiting this proposal to 1 O play per week, there wouldn't be any "hours of extra scouting or game planning" needed. And most opponents won't even scout any custom D plays at all.

Yes, if someone's throwing 8 new O blind plays at you, that would suck and be a timesink to scout, but if proper limits were instituted, then (1) this proposal would barely affect anyone's scouting time, and (2) the league benefit would be more incentive to creative some better and/or innovative plays. I, for one, am sick of seeing the same stuff over & over in derivative form.
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Re: Gameplan Strategy proposal

Postby Mitch-Dolphins » Mon Sep 08, 2025 9:09 am

I don't think I've added any of the new plays created in the past 3 seasons to my practice gameplans. Maybe a few here and there... It hasn't impacted me at all.
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