Dean-Atlanta wrote:What good is hoarding points to never spend them? What element of strategy are we missing that is behind the points hoarding?
I think the person who just posted how point strapped they are should spend more time looking in the mirror than talking about how other spend points. It was more a joke with Rich than a statement of fact.
What good is hoarding points to never spend them? What element of strategy are we missing that is behind the points hoarding?[/quote]
Steve-LA Chargers wrote:Only benefit I can see to hoarding all those points is so he can afford all those draft picks and then sign all those rookies to career long contracts.
That is part of it. It is more that points have a value and of how I view building teams after watching sports for decades.
The first part is points aren't a seasonal budget they are an asset that has value so they shouldn't be spent just to spent them. I have watch a lot of coaches burn through all their point ever season and struggle to keep their team together. If they had budget and planned they would have had more than enough points for everything.
Second and the more important reason is I view team building simple will this person help me win a championship. That take a multi-step view. Is he good enough to be on a championship team and will he still be playing when the team is ready to make a push. To give a real life example Detroit Lions, I have talked to friend about the QB situation and they are like they have to draft a QB. I am like the QB doesn't matter right now the rest of the team isn't ready. There is no reason to draft a QB until the rest of the team is ready. If you do it now you have to pay the QB once the rest of the team gets caught up and you will need to start cutting players on that team to keep the QB. PNFL example CB Hargreaves who is an amazing player but has little value to me since I am building a team and he will be retire by the time it is done.
You notice this mistake a lot in the NFL way too many fans and GMs look at moves in a vacuum. Did we get a good deal in the trade or is the player worth the money? When it should be is this player part of our championship team? If he is not he has zero value to you unless he doesn't have long term cost then it is a roster spot. It is closely related to the myth that championship are one in stages. You first need to make the playoff than win a playoff game etc. This couldn't be further from the truth. It is build a team that can win the Super Bowl that is complete. Teams building based on the myth generally can win a playoff game and may be make the Super Bowl but end up falling a part after that. They are making those steps while building the team and rarely able to get the final pieces they need.
It is part of the reason why Dallas Cowboys are always a good team but never a championship team. They improve pieces but never build a team.
Signing Zeke and Dak was the closing of the Cowboy window. As I said to a Dallas fan Dak deserves his money but I wouldn't want my team to pay him. Now if you look at the NFC East the other teams are getting better as Dallas is starting is starting to have to move pieces. This isn't about Dak this is about the overvaluing of the QB position. Yes they are the most important piece of the team but are they worth 20%-25% of your cap watch KC and Buffalo the next couple of year.
Heck just look at Green Bay Rodgers arguably the best QB by talent. It has been 11 seasons since he has made the Super Bowl. That means in 15 seasons as a starter 14 have been failures. So was paying him worth it or could they have won another by trading him and building a team or not signing him. People will say trading a top 10 QB is the worst thing you can do but evidence shows paying a Top 10 QB keeps you in the conversation but doesn't in the end win you anything. I guess it best to watch Seattle and Denver which will win a championship next.
Third reason I have viewed point transactions through my plan and am I getting value. As a few of you have seen through talking trades with me. I think points have a value and I won't just give them a way. That value doesn't change much just because I have almost 300 or have 10. I will say with the anti-aging change the value of points has gone down. Part of the reason when I started this rebuild and amassing picks was thinking ahead to anti-aging points. That is why the anti-aging change hurt me more than help me because I had budget for it while other teams hadn't. Things that make other teams spend point when I don't just gives me more flexibility in the future.
Like Steve said it allows me to draft people and sign people long term at a discount instead of the standard 2 to 3 year contract costing 2 points per year. Think of it this way every player you sign for back to back 1 year contracts you gave away a point because you didn't plan a head. Develop a plan and stick to it. I have in the past have diverted from my plan to make a push just to lose a playoff game. I will always look back at those season with regret especially after last season. I got the furthest I have ever gotten and I didn't divert from my plan. If you look at all my Free Agent signing they were all after people picked all the players they wanted and I signed 1 point contracts to fill my roster of the best players remaining. I will admit most of last season was 100% luck. I am not a better coach than most of the coaches in this league. I am not a better GM than most of the Gms. I got lucky. That getting lucky didn't hurt my plan going forward except it would have been nice to have the first pick. That being said it isn't in my blood to truly tank.
Blame Dean he asked the question.
