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Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:10 pm
by Steve-LA Chargers
Simple, conditional proposal really to support the changes Charlie likely will make to reduce every down usage of the 2 DL plays in the league. My guess is he will probably limit 2-DLs to PM, PL and PRD. If that is the case, then it will be important to control when those categories can be called next season.

PROPOSED:
PM: Can only be used in 6+ yardage situations. Required on 3rd 6-10.
PL: Can only be used in 10+ yardage situations. Required on 3rd 10+ from O5 to DEF 35.
PRD: Can only be used with less than 2 min to go. Meant to be prevent.

I only recommend this new category restriction if and only if we indeed restrict 2 DL plays to PM, PL and PRD next season, otherwise, not needed.

Re: Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:49 pm
by Steve-LA Chargers
Amended to reflect Charlie's proposal:

PROPOSED:
PM: Can only be used in 1st 10+, 2nd 6+, 3rd 6+ yardage situations. Required on 3rd 6-10.
PL: Can only be used in 10+ yardage situations. Required on 3rd 10+ from O5 to DEF 35.
PRD: Can only be used with less than 2 min to go. Meant to be prevent.
RRD: Can only be used when < 5 yards to go

CAVEAT: If Charlie removes 2 DLs from PM too, then we should still be able to use PM in 1st 6+ situations per my original proposal unless we feel this is a way to breathe new life into the PS category.

Re: Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:14 pm
by Dean-Atlanta
If the offense can still call medium passing on 1st and 10, the defense should still be able to use PM.

Re: Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:15 pm
by Charlie-49ers
I am trying to keep the 2-DL defenses simple; compromise and small steps! :|

Razzle Dazzle - a minimum of four required if you use them. Can only be used in the final two minutes in each half.

Pass Long - a minimum of six required. No more than 50% can be 2-DL defenses.

Pass Medium - a minimum of six required. No more than 33% can be 2-DL defenses.
*****To have three 2-DL defenses in this category you would need nine Pass Medium plays.


After next season we will evaluate the results and potentially restrict 2-DL defenses further, but I think that this is a good compromise to start.

Re: Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:38 pm
by Mitch-Oilers
I vote for Steve's proposal.

Re: Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:06 pm
by Charlie-49ers
Mitch, was that an in-person, mail-in, or absentee vote?

Re: Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:14 pm
by Charlie-49ers
Dean-Kansas City wrote:If the offense can still call medium passing on 1st and 10, the defense should still be able to use PM.


This is one of the calls that I think is hurting the QB passing stats! There is not a team in the NFL that would use a 2-DL defense on 1st down with any type of close score with a bunch of time left on the clock. For an exaggerated example, what team do you know that would use a 2-DL defense after kicking off to start the game; none, zero, zip! So, why would the PNFL allow it?

Re: Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:18 pm
by Steve-LA Chargers
I don't want Charlie counting plays in game plans and doing calculations to check for compliance. We have enough of that on the offensive side with keepers, rollouts, and timers. I highly recommend that if we make changes that it is EASY for the commishes to check.

I would prefer we limit 2 DL plays to PL and PRD and set profile restrictions on PL and PRD to ensure they aren't called on 1st and 2nd down > 5 min. Keep it this simple.

Re: Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:25 pm
by Steve-LA Chargers
STEVE's SIMPLIFIED PROPOSAL:
2 DLs only exist as PL and PRD going forward.
PL: A minimum of six required in game plans. In profiles, can only be used in 10+ yardage situations. Required on 3rd 10+ from O5 to DEF 35.
PRD: A minimum of four required in game plans if you use them. In profiles, can only be used with less than 2 min to go. Meant to be prevent.

Re: Defensive profile proposal

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:01 pm
by Steve-LA Chargers
Steve-LA Chargers wrote:STEVE's SIMPLIFIED PROPOSAL:
2 DLs only exist as PL and PRD going forward.
PL: A minimum of six required in game plans. In profiles, can only be used in 10+ yardage situations. Required on 3rd 10+ from O5 to DEF 35.
PRD: A minimum of four required in game plans if you use them. In profiles, can only be used with less than 2 min to go. Meant to be prevent.


Realized it was confusing as written. I'm not talking about game plan limits as those would not change.

STEVE's SIMPLIFIED PROPOSAL:
2 DLs only exist as PL and PRD going forward.
PL: In profiles, can only be used in 10+ yardage situations when > 5 min. Required on 3rd 10+ from O5 to DEF 35.
PRD: In profiles, can only be used with less than 2 min to go. Meant to be prevent.