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PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:30 am
by Mitch-Oilers
For those not on the group chat, yesterday we were discussing the pass short/pass medium issue. Dean made a great point saying we need to go back to the original PNFL ratings when QBs had a MAX of 99 IN and 90 DI.
I agree, we should consider going back to the original PNFL ratings scale in 1998. Here are the Top 15 QBs in QBR along with their ratings in ST, IN and DI.
Re: PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:23 am
by Jerry-Redskins
Disagree. We did extensive testing to get INT's in line without overly hurting % percentage. No reason to revisit since we did the deep study in my opinion. People never consider the second order of effects. Lets also stop trying to change rules when some need to just learn to win in the construct we have and not change the league to their capability
Re: PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:45 am
by Mitch-Oilers
Jerry-Redskins wrote:Disagree. We did extensive testing to get INT's in line without overly hurting % percentage. No reason to revisit since we did the deep study in my opinion. People never consider the second order of effects. Lets also stop trying to change rules when some need to just learn to win in the construct we have and not change the league to their capability
@Jerry
Don't worry, I only posted this info to get Dean fired up based on a conversation on the podcast and Whatsapp yesterday.
It is interesting how much lower the ratings were and how much higher the QBRs were back then.
Re: PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:26 pm
by Steve-LA Chargers
No aST over 94? Maybe we are placing too much emphasis on 95 or 96 ST.
IN clearly doesn't matter that much like I have been saying. Young, Elway and Bledsoe with those high INs still had low QBRs?
Maybe EN mattered more? or AG? or even HA?
Re: PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:41 pm
by Justin-Chicago
Steve-LA Chargers wrote:No aST over 94? Maybe we are placing too much emphasis on 95 or 96 ST.
IN clearly doesn't matter that much like I have been saying. Young, Elway and Bledsoe with those high INs still had low QBRs?
Maybe EN mattered more? or AG? or even HA?
Or coaching
Re: PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:04 pm
by Mitch-Oilers
Justin-Chicago wrote:Steve-LA Chargers wrote:No aST over 94? Maybe we are placing too much emphasis on 95 or 96 ST.
IN clearly doesn't matter that much like I have been saying. Young, Elway and Bledsoe with those high INs still had low QBRs?
Maybe EN mattered more? or AG? or even HA?
Or coaching
@Justin
It's never the coaches fault. Ha!
Re: PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:06 pm
by Mitch-Oilers
Steve-LA Chargers wrote:No aST over 94? Maybe we are placing too much emphasis on 95 or 96 ST.
IN clearly doesn't matter that much like I have been saying. Young, Elway and Bledsoe with those high INs still had low QBRs?
Maybe EN mattered more? or AG? or even HA?
@Steve
One thing to keep in mind is the ratings CBs, particularly SP, was kower then too.
Re: PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:07 am
by Matt-Jacksonville
Mitch-Oilers wrote:Steve-LA Chargers wrote:No aST over 94? Maybe we are placing too much emphasis on 95 or 96 ST.
IN clearly doesn't matter that much like I have been saying. Young, Elway and Bledsoe with those high INs still had low QBRs?
Maybe EN mattered more? or AG? or even HA?
@Steve
One thing to keep in mind is the ratings CBs, particularly SP, was kower then too.
That is probably your answer. If the ratings for the CBs were lower, that played a bigger part than the QB ratings.
Re: PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:40 am
by Barney - Vikings
Agree with Jerry. Right now points scored is in line with the NFL and most games are close. There will always be second order effects to any change. The league right now is by far the best that I’ve ever experienced in my 25 years of playing this game.
Tread very carefully with rule changes would be my suggestion.
Re: PNFL Ratings - We agree on
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:58 pm
by Donovon-Steelers
And what were the WR ratings back then as well comparatively? Will also impact the QBR as the DB ratings would.