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#1 pick goes to ...

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:10 pm
by Steve-LA Chargers
Maybe the NYG? Kind of a mess to sort out with FIVE 5-11 teams.

NYG = tied w/PHI; lost to NE & CAR; didn't play KC
PHI = tied w/NYG; lost to CAR & KC; beat NE
CAR = lost to NE & KC; beat PHI & NYG
KC (DET) = lost to NE; beat PHI & CAR; didn't play NYG
NE = lost to KC & PHI; beat NYG & CAR

I'm sure James will correct me if I'm wrong, but with the tiebreaker being as shown, might come down to SOS. We'll see those when Rich updates the Standings page.

Head-to-head, if applicable {too messy}
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games (minimum of four) {too messy; not enough}
Strength of victory in all games {likely}
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games {might have to}
Best net points in all games {might have to}
Best net touchdowns in all games {might have to}
Coin toss {might have to}

I made it simple last season. This time it's a mess.

Re: #1 pick goes to ...

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:12 pm
by Steve-LA Chargers
CORRECTION

NYG = tied w/PHI; lost to NE & CAR; didn't play KC
PHI = tied w/NYG; lost to CAR & KC; beat NE
CAR = lost to NE & KC; beat PHI & NYG
NE = lost to KC & PHI; beat NYG & CAR
KC (DET) = beat PHI & CAR & NE; didn't play NYG

Re: #1 pick goes to ...

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:58 pm
by Rich-League Officer
#1 Giants
#2 Eagles
#3 Panthers
#4 Patriots
#5 Chiefs

Re: #1 pick goes to ...

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:35 pm
by Dean-Atlanta
Giants and Chiefs started the season 2-0. Both went 3-11 over the rest of the season.

Re: #1 pick goes to ...

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:53 pm
by Mitch-Oilers
NE started the season 4-2.

Re: #1 pick goes to ...

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:31 pm
by James-Eagles
Steve-LA Chargers wrote:Maybe the NYG? Kind of a mess to sort out with FIVE 5-11 teams.

NYG = tied w/PHI; lost to NE & CAR; didn't play KC
PHI = tied w/NYG; lost to CAR & KC; beat NE
CAR = lost to NE & KC; beat PHI & NYG
KC (DET) = lost to NE; beat PHI & CAR; didn't play NYG
NE = lost to KC & PHI; beat NYG & CAR

I'm sure James will correct me if I'm wrong, but with the tiebreaker being as shown, might come down to SOS. We'll see those when Rich updates the Standings page.

Head-to-head, if applicable {too messy}
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games (minimum of four) {too messy; not enough}
Strength of victory in all games {likely}
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games {might have to}
Best net points in all games {might have to}
Best net touchdowns in all games {might have to}
Coin toss {might have to}

I made it simple last season. This time it's a mess.

It is strength of schedule then the other stuff

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl- ... ebreakers/

Re: #1 pick goes to ...

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:07 pm
by James-Eagles
NYG
Rich-League Officer wrote:#1 Giants
#2 Eagles
#3 Panthers
#4 Patriots
#5 Chiefs

I think this is wrong because Eagles and NYG have the same SOS
Phi 102-106 .490
NYG 101-105-2 since ties count as .5 .490

That means it goes to division tiebreakers
NYG has a better win percent in Division
So it should be
1. Eagles
2. Giants
3. Panthers
4. Patriots
5. Chiefs
Though Standing page SoS is wrong since it only takes division opp once
SoS is done by opp. wins(ties being .5)


NE opp wins 140
KC opp wins 141
NYG opp wins 126
Phi opp wins 126
Car opp wins 137
It didn't change the order this time but KC would have been close to getting the 4th pick




Steve-LA Chargers wrote:Maybe the NYG? Kind of a mess to sort out with FIVE 5-11 teams.

NYG = tied w/PHI; lost to NE & CAR; didn't play KC
PHI = tied w/NYG; lost to CAR & KC; beat NE
CAR = lost to NE & KC; beat PHI & NYG
KC (DET) = lost to NE; beat PHI & CAR; didn't play NYG
NE = lost to KC & PHI; beat NYG & CAR

I'm sure James will correct me if I'm wrong, but with the tiebreaker being as shown, might come down to SOS. We'll see those when Rich updates the Standings page.

Head-to-head, if applicable {too messy}
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games (minimum of four) {too messy; not enough}
Strength of victory in all games {likely}
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games {might have to}
Best net points in all games {might have to}
Best net touchdowns in all games {might have to}
Coin toss {might have to}

I made it simple last season. This time it's a mess.



It is nice SOS breaks the tie because NFL tiebreakers are a long process and a mess

They would break all divisional ties
so Phi vs NYG which would be Phi since New York has the better divisional record

So now you would break all Conference tiebreakers with NYG
Phi vs Car Phi would move on since Carolina beat Phi
NE vs KC NE would move on because NE lost to KC

The final step would be
Phi VS NE Phi beat NE

NE would have got the first pick

Then you start over without NE
Division
NYG vs Phi Phi moves on
Conference
PHI vs Car Phi moves on

Phi vs KC KC beat Phi

2. Phi
Remove phi
Conference NYG vs Car Car beat NYG. NYG moves on
NYGvs KC KC 5-6 NYG 1-10

3. NYG
final step
KC vs Car KC beat Car
4. Car
5.KC


That is how NFL does tiebreakers It's a pain.

Re: #1 pick goes to ...

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:15 pm
by Rich-League Officer
James is correct.

#1 Eagles (0.490) (1-5)
#2 Giants (0.490) (2-4)
#3 Panthers (0.494)
#4 Patriots (0.524)
#5 Chiefs (0.542)

But we do not need all those tiebreakers for the other three 5 wins teams.
For 43 seasons it's been done like this.



Re: #1 pick goes to ...

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:32 pm
by James-Eagles
Rich-League Officer wrote:James is correct.

#1 Eagles (0.490) (1-5)
#2 Giants (0.490) (2-4)
#3 Panthers (0.494)
#4 Patriots (0.524)
#5 Chiefs (0.542)

But we do not need all those tiebreakers for the other three 5 wins teams.
For 43 seasons it's been done like this.



I just did the rest to point out how mess tie breaking is in the NFL.

NFC East will be drafting well this draft
1. Eagles
2. Giants
3. Panthers
4. Redskins (from Patriots)
5. Lions(From Chiefs